The editor recounts an in-person conversation that occurred between Gracy Obuchowicz and Louise Green, focusing on self care, leadership, social justice, and work. Louise establishes the framework for self-care by centering it as an act that focuses on the larger I, the Witness and Observer within--as opposed to the little i, the "smaller constructed Louise self." She explores how discipline, leadership, and self-care work in tandem with community organizing and decentering yourself: "a relational culture is flexible, dynamic, and responsive to changing needs."

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